Comments on: Dead Children Continued http://blog.thebriz.org/2006/01/dead-children-continued/ Quite possibly, this is all true. Mon, 06 Sep 2010 14:04:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Michael http://blog.thebriz.org/2006/01/dead-children-continued/comment-page-1/#comment-30 Michael Tue, 31 Jan 2006 05:33:07 +0000 http://blog.thebriz.org/?p=128#comment-30 Yes, I think your point is hugly valid. Indeed, my dad brought up the idea that kids in WI can drive farm equipment on highways at 12. And so I did some checking and found this out. In Florida, the license-granting proceedures are as follows: Learner’s License - To earn a learner’s license, you must be at least 15 years old. With your Learner’s License, you may: Only drive during daylight hours during the first three months and until 10 p.m. thereafter, always with a licensed driver who is at least 21 years old and occupies the front passenger seat. Operator’s License (16 and 17 year old) - To earn an operator’s license, you must be at least 16 years old AND have held a learner’s license for at least one year without any traffic convictions. With your Operator’s License, you may: 16 years old – only drive between 6 a.m. and 11 p.m., unless accompanied by a licensed driver who is at least 21 years old and occupies the front passenger seat, or you are traveling to or from work. 17 years old – only drive between 5 a.m. and 1 a.m., unless accompanied by a licensed driver who is at least 21 years old and occupies the front passenger seat, or you are traveling to or from work. But I still want to know what the parents told their daughter. What was their understanding of the law? And is it the fact that the daughter did not have a right to drive that has caused this story to disappear from the media? Yes, I think your point is hugly valid. Indeed, my dad brought up the idea that kids in WI can drive farm equipment on highways at 12. And so I did some checking and found this out.

In Florida, the license-granting proceedures are as follows:
Learner’s License – To earn a learner’s license, you must be at least 15 years old.
With your Learner’s License, you may:
Only drive during daylight hours during the first three months and until 10 p.m. thereafter, always with a licensed driver who is at least 21 years old and occupies the front passenger seat.

Operator’s License (16 and 17 year old) – To earn an operator’s license, you must be at least 16 years old AND have held a learner’s license for at least one year without any traffic convictions.
With your Operator’s License, you may:

16 years old – only drive between 6 a.m. and 11 p.m., unless accompanied by a licensed driver who is at least 21 years old and occupies the front passenger seat, or you are traveling to or from work.
17 years old – only drive between 5 a.m. and 1 a.m., unless accompanied by a licensed driver who is at least 21 years old and occupies the front passenger seat, or you are traveling to or from work.

But I still want to know what the parents told their daughter. What was their understanding of the law? And is it the fact that the daughter did not have a right to drive that has caused this story to disappear from the media?

]]> By: Megan http://blog.thebriz.org/2006/01/dead-children-continued/comment-page-1/#comment-29 Megan Mon, 30 Jan 2006 19:19:00 +0000 http://blog.thebriz.org/?p=128#comment-29 I have a minor problem with one of the premesis of your argument although it has only minor effects on the over all argument. You say "the driver of the van was 15 years old. The legal age to drive in this country is… last time I checked… 16." This statement is not accurate because the legal age to opporate a motor vehicle is not decided by federal law, it is state law. This means that the language and regulations of the law can differ by state. Take for instance Wisconsin, you can receive your instruction permit at age 15.5, whereas in Iowa it can be received when 15 years old. Or, if you look at Hawaii the state has delegated lisencing to the county level, creating different regulations for obtaining a lisence depending on the county one lives in. I believe that all of the states use 16 as the age at which one is eligible to receive a drivers lisence. This congruency across states is not because it is federal law, but is largely to do with the state receiving more federal money for highway systems by adhearing to that age. Finally, what I'm getting at here is that some states, like Kansas, offer restricted lisences to 15 year olds that allow them to drive, unsupervised, to and from school and work only. I am not familiar with Florida's laws regarding opporation of a motor vehicle, and have not had time or taken the time to look it up, but I would be curious to know if it was the young woman's parents who urged her to opporate the van, or if possibly there were other circumstances regarding the law. I have a minor problem with one of the premesis of your argument although it has only minor effects on the over all argument. You say “the driver of the van was 15 years old. The legal age to drive in this country is… last time I checked… 16.” This statement is not accurate because the legal age to opporate a motor vehicle is not decided by federal law, it is state law. This means that the language and regulations of the law can differ by state. Take for instance Wisconsin, you can receive your instruction permit at age 15.5, whereas in Iowa it can be received when 15 years old. Or, if you look at Hawaii the state has delegated lisencing to the county level, creating different regulations for obtaining a lisence depending on the county one lives in. I believe that all of the states use 16 as the age at which one is eligible to receive a drivers lisence. This congruency across states is not because it is federal law, but is largely to do with the state receiving more federal money for highway systems by adhearing to that age. Finally, what I’m getting at here is that some states, like Kansas, offer restricted lisences to 15 year olds that allow them to drive, unsupervised, to and from school and work only. I am not familiar with Florida’s laws regarding opporation of a motor vehicle, and have not had time or taken the time to look it up, but I would be curious to know if it was the young woman’s parents who urged her to opporate the van, or if possibly there were other circumstances regarding the law.

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